and you thought you knew.. Kerry Leigh

"The 60’s, 70’s, and some of the 80’s, was the golden age of Australian rock and I was lucky to have worked and experienced some of it. In the late 80’s I went back to live playing and joined a band that had a record deal with CBS/ Sony, Wayne Gillespie & the Gallery toured a bit and did some live TV Shows and interviews. The record flopped of course - bad management and a record company that wouldn’t listen! This was very common with bands that were signed in the 80’ and 90’s it’s not so hit and miss today - the bean counters have taken over, everything is formularized planned out, music is more paint by numbers and very corporate with the majors labels."

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Kerry Leigh (of Kerry Leigh and Expresso Lane) is not just a good ole Aussie bloke, but a damn fine musician/composer who takes his work seriously and remains committed to the 'nth degree. The proof of this is evident on Kerry Leigh & Expresso Lane's debut album 'Walking through walls' which we recently summed up to be '..outstanding in terms of musicianship and production and a fine example of intelligent songwriting!'

In conversation, Kerry comes across as a music biz confidante, challenger of what's amiss in the Aussie music industry, and as a knowledgeable and highly gifted and experienced musician/producer. What we don't know about him could only be fully revealed by us inviting him to answer the inevitable questions...

The Interview - November 11 2006
Welcome to IOM Kerry... can we begin with you telling us a bit about your background?

Born in Sydney Australia, in the mid 60’s. My father was a working jazz guitarist. In my early school years I wasn't interested in guitar but I learned to play a lot of brass instruments - tuba, alto sax, French horns, trombone. I Had a fantastic American exchange teacher for three years who was a serious muso! This guy knew harmony and arrangements, which is rare for a high school music teacher, I think most of them are hopeless!

It wasn’t till I left school I heard the old man playing some nice jazz melody’s and walking bass lines and I thought that was cool. I was about 19 - a late starter on guitar and so I got private lessons for 12 month to build my chops up so I could get excepted into some sort of guitar collage {by the way never get lessons from your parents if they are pro muso’s it's just too painful!}

I got excepted into the guitar academy at Bondi. It was run by two well known Australian jazz guitar players {George Golla and Don Andrews}  I stayed there about two years, studied and practiced hard, and I loved it. I have a deep respect for jazz but I felt it was not quite the music I wanted to dedicate my life to. I then moved on and started to join numerous cover and original bands touring around the country looking for the sign - my holy grail in music, but I never found it in the live scene.

It wasn’t till I got involved in recording studios in the early 80’s I found that these were creative places to hang out and I   teamed up with others writing jingles and learnt to use all the classic vintage gear like old Neve consoles 16 & 24 track 2” machines! There wasn’t even a DAT machine back then, in fact no digital at all.. only a new thing called MIDI was just being mentioned.

The 60’s 70’s and some of the 80’s was the golden age of Australian rock and I was lucky to have worked and experienced some of it. In the late 80’s I went back to live playing and joined a band that had a record deal with CBS/ Sony, Wayne Gillespie & the Gallery toured a bit and did some live TV Shows and interviews. The record flopped of course - bad management and a record company that wouldn’t listen! This was very common with bands that were signed in the 80’ and 90’s it’s not so hit and miss today - the bean counters have taken over, everything is formularized planned out, music is more paint by numbers and very corporate with the majors labels.

So everybody went there own way and that’s when I got the brain storm to build and start my own recording studio Air-raid studios {yeah as if we need another one of these on the planet!} anyway that’s what musicians do. My keyboard partner Kate and I worked Air-raid for about 10 years. We throw all our money into this bottomless pit of a business about $250,000! Recorded everything I think.. about 900 bands went through the place!

It was both hard work and fun and we got to meet a lot of talented people. Then the mid 90’s came and the Mariah Carey and grunge thing was here and I hated it!  It was time to close shop and work on my own stuff plus I was tired of being the gate keeper for 'wonderland' and not able to record my own ideas. See when you have rent to pay on a commercial studio, and an investment that is high maintenance, you become a shop keeper.. musician/songwriter takes the back seat now!

We dismantled air-raid in about 2000 and I brought everything home. That gave us plenty of time to develop Expresso Lane. It took a while to find our sound - lots of arrangements and sound sculpturing! The thing that is worth mentioning is that by the time we finally recorded the “walking through walls” album, we had a situation where the drums were done in a kitchen and mixed in converted bed room! Not very high tech when two years before I had a nice studio! 

I produced the album and did all the tracking but feeling a little too close to it, I contracted  John Sayers to mix… this guy has produced and mixed some of Australia’s most successful bands. It’s 2006 and we are now on the way to finishing our second album!   

What would you say have been your main musical influences?

I started out on the jazz trip so I suppose I have always lent towards the laid back cruiser styles in pop/rock world. I listen to a lot of everything in the beginning. jj Cale, George Benson, Pink floyd, Beatles , Supertramp, Fleetwood Mac, Dire straits and so on.

What could you tell us about “high points” in your musical career?

Getting to the stage in your writing where you start to have an identifiable sound in your music. A lot of bands don’t do that today . Also when I built Air- raid recording studios that was a lot of fun. I did some tracking for Jackson Browne and his young son Ryan who was in his first recording band.. we even had a channel 7 camera crew!

Young Ryan in front of everyone was instructing dad wearing his a favourite trigger happy t-shirt of Kurt Curbain! It’s not about the lyrics pop, it’s about the beat... that’s what people want here. I'd had enough at this stage, so I went in to the green room to make a cup of tea when I was asked by someone at the end of the room what do you think of Ryan's music (not thinking and putting my foot in with great style) I said 'I think the dynasty stops with Jackson!' It turned out it was Ryan's uncle oops!! It was painful and fun at the same time.. a weird day.

Tom T Hall was another US artist I encountered. I had a great time with this guy and his band. Tom was out here touring with his band and wanted to record a new bunch of songs about the Australian landscape. One was called the 'jacaranda blues' mind you I didn’t have the heart to tell him that this variety of Tree was not native to Australia! (who cares?) Tom wanted to record and he was in my studio. Well everyone turned up that day. Robbie Porter - producer of Air-supply, Singer-Australian-Icon of the 60’s Cole Joye, and one would-be agent/promoter!

Well when It came to do Tom's vocal parts he was missing! See Tom, like the rest of us, likes a drink! So he found my half bottle of scotch and being a true rock legend didn’t disappoint me! So here’s me and the band brewing up the strongest coffee we could find. (By the way I got in to trouble for leaving the Scotch out I’m still trying to work that one out!) At that stage, I needed a drink or three that was a great day and one of my favorite studio experiences... I cant wait to be rich and famous!               

How about low points and how you managed to get over them?

I don’t! I take it out on everyone around me. HA, HA. Well I try not to.. but in this business it is hard to stay the consummate optimist!

If you could turn the clocks back, is there anything you would have done differently?

Yeah! Be born to big rich rock star parents!

Who did you work with on your most recent projects?

I was in the studio with Garry {Drummer} laying down some new drum tracks for a tune on the next album.

If you could pick a favourite track from your recent work what would it be?

“walking through walls” album track 6 “We can go from there” I like the reggae calypso vibe it works well.

What musical instruments/equipment do you normally use?

When writing: Guitar, Strat running through a version 2 pod. Cort curbo bass, an old Roland D-70 and a 88 key Roland RS9.. I midi this up with Steinberg’s The Grand.  Like most folk I record in the digital DAW world but not totally. Still like to keep a analogue chain in there!

My front end is 2x Neve v-1 series pre amps and 16x 1978 MCI jh 500 pres. Rosetta 800s and RME adi-8 analogue digital converters monitors near fields Roger Questeds. Urie LA 4 compressors. 2X P4 3.2 GIG Computers with UAD-1 Cards audio programs Acid pro 6 and Nuendo 3.2

Do you have a favourite instrument either as a player or appreciator?

I’m a guitar junky I have owned some classic guitars 1961 es345 Gibsons, Charlie Christian 1940’s acoustic Gibson, 60’s Gibson Birdland.  I play a 40th anniversary Strat at the moment and it does the job fine. I Also like the drums when they are tuned and miked up well.

Can you remember your first stage and/or studio experience?

Yep it was a live gig I was 16 a reading job in front of 300 people I thought I was a good enough reader  until I look at it 15 mins before the gig most of it was above the staff lines went a nice beetroot red under prepared heaps of reading mistake!

What five albums would you want to find if you were stranded on a desert island with enough food, water, a copy of IOM, a fantastic audio system, and any one musical instrument of your choice?

I don’t listen to much music these days. I think I would just do a little fishing and go with the piece and quiet of the island!

Do you have a favourite album cover of all time?
I use to love taking my time reading and checking out all the pics and blurbs about the bands when I was younger!  Here are a couple that come to mind... the Beatles - Sgt Peppers, Tommy - The Who, Kate Bush - Never for ever, Kiss alive,  you really felt your got your money's worth with those old vinyl records!
and what, may we ask, are the five albums you listened to most recently?
Beatles - Sgt Peppers, Uzeb live - a French/Canadian jazz fusion band. Mark Knofpler's shangarali album, Dire Straits first album. Tony Joe White Collection.
What five movies did you watch most recently?

Enemy of the state, secret files of the inquisition, Pool Junkies, Tucker, MI-3

Which artist would you most like to meet or borrow a bag of sugar from as a next door neighbour?

I would prefer not to meet any of them - I might not like what I would find. So I’ll just keep playing their records {ignorance is bliss!}

If you could have been responsible for writing the best song or piece of music ever written, what would it be?
Romeo & Juliet
If you could have three wishes, what would they be?

Well it’s November 2006 and I would love the Australian liberal party to fall in to a black hole. I’m not greedy - the one wish is fine the arts to them is like a wooden stake to a vampire!

On to the more intimate side of Mr Leigh.. what did you dream about last night AND you can't say 'I do not remember'...

I was on Risa and I was surrounded by 20 voluptuous Orion slave girls it was awfull!!! Hey I’m a Star Trek nut!

And, if we were to “shadow” you on a typical day, what might we see you doing?

I think you might get frustrated and bored with me I can get very distracted and frivolous with my time music can take a back seat sometimes. Love watching movies and playing snooker too much!

What did you do the day before yesterday?

I had a Melbourne cup gig to do. {Important Australian horse racing day televised world wide}

If you had to move to another country for a year to record an album, but you only had a few suitcases and an hour to pack…  what would you take?

Well if it was that quick… dress casual grab my axe. And buy the rest of what I needed when settled!

What bugs you most?
People who pour cold water on a positive project. Musicians are the best at doing this!
What makes your day really shine?
Everyday at 4.30 my Border collie Max reminds me it’s time to have fun at the park!
I hate to end it all like this Kerry, but.. finally, what are your plans for 2007?

Finish the new album; keep trying to get some interest o/s for a tour finish the new web site for Kerry Leigh & Expresso Lane!

Kerry Leigh.. thanks for dropping by... the delightful Sandra will see you to the car and take you to Gate number 8 where your Qantas flight is waiting!
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Kerry Leigh was interviewed by Colin Lynch - November 11 2006
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